This is a guest article, contributed by Roy Ang, class of 2008.
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If you are reading this article, you must be a prospective applicant for the course of Medicine in NUS – one of the most highly sought after degrees in Singapore. Well, young padawan doctor-to-be, read on!
Due to the high – possibly bordering insane – academic demands of the course, Yong Loo Lin School of Medicine (YLLSoM) has in place a highly rigorous selection criteria set in place to pick their students to study medicine. Out of 2000+ applicants, only 260+ lucky students get admitted to the school by September. With that kind of admission rates, it is almost as competitive as top universities in US and UK!
I applied for admissions to Medicine in NUS in 2009, and received the offer when I was still in OCS in May that year. While the offer of disruption from NS and joining the many doctors in Singapore was tempting, I eventually decided to reject the offer put forward by YLLSoM. (more details on that in my next article) Though the thought of being an M.D. has since long passed me, I still clearly remember the ardous process I had to put myself through to finally receive that precious piece of good news in that merry month of May.
Without further ado, here’s the rundown on the admissions process.
Read the rest at his blog: http://rangspeakyourmind.wordpress.com/2011/03/29/an-unofficial-guide-to-admission-to-yong-loo-lin-school-of-medicine/
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Wednesday, September 8, 2010
Medicine tests (UK and Australia)
I am going to cover four of the medical tests: the UKCAT, BMAT , ISAT and PQA, which I took. The first two are fo applications to the UK, the last two are for applications to Australia. I will focus will be on what you cannot find on the websites e.g. my thoughts and feelings, my recommendations and test-taking strategies for juniors.
1. UKCAT (UK Clinical Admissions Test)
http://www.ukcat.ac.uk/
This test is for a loooong list of UK universities. Some of the universities require you to take the UKCAT for dentistry too.
How to prepare for it?
You need to get used to two things: the UKCAT test structure and computer testing. I did all the practices tests available on the UKCAT website. The practice tests are a computer programme, so it is good in the sense that it will give you a fantastic idea of computer testing. I did the first practice test twice through because I freaked out the first time I did it and read less than half of the questions.
I freaked out so much after my first practice test that I went to the British Council to practice on this book called Passing the UKCAT and BMAT (2007) by Taylor, Hutton and Hutton. The book really works through all the questions with me, which I don't get on the official practice tests except for the Abstract Reasoning section. The book will also give tips on the abstract reasoning section. The extra practice really boosted my confidence, esp for the verbal section. (Read more about the different sections below.)
Another friend says that you can actually find helpful extra practice on the abstract reasoning section online but I didn't get to try these on time.
Where to take it?
All UKCAT exams in Singapore are held at the Pearson Vue testing centre in Tanjong Pagar. The whole office is filled with computers where people do all sorts of tests. When you enter, they will check your passport (for Singapore testing, Pearson requires that you bring your passport as your identification), get you to sign and even check that your signature matches that on your passport. You then put your stuff into a locker. You can bring ABSOLUTELY NOTHING into the testing room except the stuff they give you, that is, a stone-age calculator, a laminated piece of paper (for your scribblings) and a whiteboard marker. They will check your pockets.
There will be other people testing in the room too, which means that you'll have typing/clicking sounds. So Pearson provides you with this super cool headphones that block out the sound. Use it! If you need more paper, just raise your hand and the eagle-eyes examiner will get it to you.
What is in the test?
From the website: The test assesses a wide range of mental abilities and behavioural attributes identified by university Medical and Dental Schools as important.
Now it comprises of five sections. You are STRICTLY TIMED for each section.
First, the verbal reasoning section. You're given a passage to read, then you read statements and figure out whether the statements are true or false, or that you "can't tell" if the statement is true or false. This section was very difficult for me because I read slowly (I like to thoroughly understand every sentence) and it wasn't easy to decide whether the statements were true or false. After some practice, I gather that "true" means that the passage EXPLICITLY STATES or IMPLIES that it is true, "false" means that the passage EXPLICITLY STATES or IMPLIES that it is false, and "can't tell" means that the passage doesn't explicitly state or imply the statement. Remember, the minute you can, using your pre-trained academic capabilities
SIGNPOSTS for the "Can't tell" option: unclear definition of words and phrases, lack of credibility of a particular quote in the passage (i.e. the statement is found in the passage but appears to be from a doubtful source), unlinked ideas (e.g. the cause-effect relationship is confounded).
Second, the quantitative reasoning section. As mentioned, you'll get a calculator. If you can immediately process the question and punch in the numbers, good for you! People like me who need to write out the information on paper are disadvantaged because time is tight, though not as tight as the verbal section. NUSH students should not find this section a big problem.
Third, the abstract reasoning section. From my practice book, this section tests your ability to "understand the underlying logic" and your "innate capacity to reason".
The UKCAT website explains this best: "In this subtest, you will be presented with two sets of shapes labelled 'Set A' and 'Set B'. All the shapes in Set A are similar in some way, as are the shapes in Set B. Set A and Set B are not related to each other. For each pair of Set A and Set B, you will be presented with five 'Test Shapes'. Your task is to decide whether each test shape belongs to Set A, Set B, or neither. You will be presented with a total of thirteen pairs of Set A and Set B. For each pair, you will be presented with five items."
This is the second killer section. You just don't know what to look out for in each set! For this section, KEEP PRACTISING; sorry.
Fourth, the decision analysis section. You are given a whole new coding system. Your tasks are to figure out what coded statements mean in plain english, to figure out how to say certain english sentences in code language, and to decide what new codes should be added to the system so that you can better express certain english sentences. This is my strongest section. I personally quite like it because this section tests your sense of logic.
Last section is a personality test. The questions that came out were exactly the same as that for the PQA (more later). No sweat for this. Just relax and be truthful.
Scores
The minute I stepped out of the testing hall, my score sheet was tossed into my hand. This is the ONLY EVIDENCE that YOU have of your score. If you lose it and need a reprint, you need to pay Pearson. After you register on UCAS, Pearson will miraculously coordinate with the universities and send over the scores. So this is NOT like the SATs, where you have to send to individual schools.
Each section is scored between 300 and 900. The executive summary in the UKCAT website will tell you more details on the mean score of all the sections, which ranges from 582 to 677. I did a rough calculation of my percentile using 68-95-99.7 rule and can tell you that if I took the UKCAT in 2009 and got the same overall score, I will be approximately in the top 2.5% of UKCAT examinees.
2. ISAT
(Congrats if you are still reading! You really want to do Medicine ;))
http://isat.acer.edu.au/
ISAT is for application to a couple of Australian universities: Monash, Western Australia, Tasmania and Queensland.
I agree with May Fong on this: "Try to take it so that your results are available when you are doing your applications, and that would require you to plan ahead." For example, if you are planning to complete your applications at the March IDP Medical and Health Sciences Fair, you must have taken your ISAT the year before. If you haven't, you must rush to take it before June because some universities have a June deadline. Plus it takes some time for your results to be processed. They say 3 weeks but mine took 1 month to be processed because I tested early in the testing season.
Testing this year takes place 1 April to 29 Oct 2010.
Preparation
I will quote Acer on this because I agree with them:
"The purpose of ISAT is to assess your abilities in a range of cross-curricular skills. ISAT measures skills acquired over a period of time, including the ability to reason, make logical deductions and form judgements. The test does not draw on any particular subject knowledge. There would therefore be little benefit to be gained by ‘cramming’ or coaching. Your best preparation may be to read widely and to think critically about what you read. However, some familiarity with the question types typically presented in ISAT is an advantage. For this reason, some sample questions are provided on this site."
Where?
You get to choose from a couple of testing sites in Singapore. I chose Central Plaza (Tiong Bahru). I recall that it was a sort of computer-skills training centre. They had this small testing room. Again, nothing is allowed in except for what they give you--a whiteboard, a whiteboard marker and a duster--but your stuff is just outside in a locker so I ran out to drink some water midway through. I certainly cannot remain seated for a whole 3 hrs.
What?
I quote May Fong from her earlier post: It’s pretty much like a logic test.. with those puzzle-like things.
I didn't think of it as a logic test. It comprised of ALL SORTS of questions! 3 hours of a whole variety of questions. Acer says that the questions fall into two categories: critical reasoning and quantitative reasoning (http://isat.acer.edu.au/content-of-isat/). Perhaps the closest analogy to this is a mash-up of the critical reading and mathematics section of the SAT Reasoning. I found it tougher than the SAT though.
I had multiple-choice comprehensions and calculation questions. No calculator for this test so calculations are simple. Rather, they like to know that you know HOW to manipulate quantitative information.
Score
I quote the acer website: "The scoring process is complex and requires substantial development and analysis by ACER's psychometricians. Candidates cannot calculate their own scores... ISAT scores for Critical Reasoning (CR), Quantitative Reasoning (QR) and Overall Reasoning (OR) are on scales with ranges of 100-200."
The raw scores did not make a lot of sense to me. So I was just concerned with the percentile, which tells me my standing relative to the rest of the test-takers (AP Statistics anybody?). Like May Fong said, we have no idea what percentile is required in order to secure an interview but we are guessing it is a minimum of 90%. Both of us got above 90%, as did another friend who took the ISAT.
3. Personal Qualities Assessment (PQA)
http://www.pqa.net.au/
The University of Adelaide does not use the ISAT. Instead, it developed its own test with the University of Newcastle--the PQA. Now, you need to pay AUD300 to take this test ON TOP of your Adelaide application fees. As a result, some people may be discouraged from applying to Adelaide. Read May Fong's post on Adelaide and decide whether you really want to go to Adelaide. Then discuss with your parents on whether they are willing to pay.
Preparation
No way to prepare. Shorter version of ISAT i.e. still testing your verbal reasoning and quantitative reasoning, with two more sections assessing "how honest you are about yourself" and your personality.
Where?
Everybody who chooses to take the PQA will be gathered together on one day at a hotel. This year, it's Carlton Hotel; it's probably going to be the same again next year. There are about 50 people in this large conference hall setting. Bring a jacket!
What?
Four sections.
1. Mental Agility Test: IQ test. Testing your verbal and quantitative skills. I did not have enough time and hence left many questions blank (about 3-5 questions) for this but still passed it.
2. and 3. MOJAC and NACE: From the website, this test "reflects their value system and what they believe is appropriate in each situation.
4. Personal qualities inventory: A zillion questions to assess whether you are honest about yourself.
MAT is timed separately from the other three sections. The other three sections contain questions and statements that are identical to the last section of the UKCAT. In mathematical terms, the UKCAT questions are a subset (though not a perfect subset) of the PQA Personal Qualities Inventory questions.
I recommend that you work quickly through the first timed section and do the rest slow but steadily. I rushed through sections 2-4 and was quite bored by the time the exam ended.
Score
You will never know your PQA score. Adelaide will just tell you whether you have "passed the PQA testing round". I think there is a way of requesting for your score but I cannot remember the conditions under which they will release the score, if they will even release the score at all.
4. BioMedical Admissions Test (BMAT)
http://www.admissionstests.cambridgeassessment.org.uk/adt/bmat
This is a test for admission into certain courses (most notably Medicine) at five of the most competitive UK universities, namely University of Cambridge, Imperial College London, Univeristy of Oxford, Royal Veterinary College and University College London. Everybody in the world takes this test at 0900 (GMT+8hrs). We in Singapore get to take it around 3-4 p.m..
Preparation
The BMAT is most DIFFERENT from the rest of the tests because it tests you on science and math knowledge i.e. something that you should revise for. YAY! Not. This section tests knowledge up until O Level knowledge. If you have O Level textbooks, go ahead and read them inside out. Our school library currently doesn't have any books that focus on O Level content only; we only have a practice book for O Level Chemistry and A level revision notes at best.
So... You can buy some books from Kinokunya. Currently, there are two books on stock:
1. How to Master the BMAT: Unbeatable Preparation for Success in the BioMedical Admissions Test -US-Tyreman, Chris / Publisher:Kogan Page Ltd Published 2009/10
SGD46.51
2. BMAT and UKCAT Uncovered: A Guide to Medical School Entrance Exams (PAP) -US-Osinowo, T. O. / Weerakkody, R. A. / Woodward, H. W. / Allen, Chris / Publisher:B M J Books Published 2008/09
SGD65.24
I did not really read the two of them in detail but I think the strength of these books is that they have really good reviews of the "scientific skills and applications" section. We are trying to get our college counsellors to put them in the school library for next year's batch of BMAT students =)
As for me, with only two weeks to prepare for the BMAT, I dilligently and very fearfully did all of the practice tests available online. I NEVER finished the tests on time so go figure how nervous I was when I sat for my BMAT. I also went down to the British Council to read up on two books:
1. Preparing for the BMAT: The official guide to the BMAT. Heinermann, Cambridge Assessment. This will be advertised on the BMAT sign up site. Personally don't find this book particularly useful except for giving extra practices.
2. Passing the UKCAT and BMAT (Same book I used for UKCAT). This book is a little outdated, but otherwise inspires confidence in the reader, especially when talking about the writing section
My recommendation: get your hands on those kinokunya books, go down to the British Council only if 1) you have read the kino books cover to cover and still have 2 weeks to go before your BMAT 2) cannot afford the books (it is truly expensive, I understand). Buy them from seniors (I am 100% sure all of them will want to sell), borrow them from the school library (hope and pray that we can get these on the shelf asap), buy them yourself.
Do NOT be lazy when practising for the essay section. When you practice, write at least 3 essays in full within the 30 min time limit. The reason for this is that you need to get used to fitting your whole argument into the box that they give you (like the SAT). You also need to get used to planning your time properly so that you can answer all of the questions (see What? section) in time. You can just draw brainstorming diagrams for as many other essay topics as you can lay your hands on. Practise thinking about both sides of the argument.
Where?
Three of us (including myself) were privileged to be able to take the BMAT at our school. I do not know of any other schools in Singapore that is registered as a test centre. Everybody else took the BMAT with the British Council, which will hold the test at various examination rooms across Singapore-- for example, my friend had her test at Republic Poly.
Personally prefer our school because:
i) We're comfortable in the familiar school environment
ii) It costs about SGD300 less than a test with the British Council. Compare this http://www.admissionstests.cambridgeassessment.org.uk/adt/bmat/datesandcost and this http://www.britishcouncil.org/singapore-exams-cambridge-admissions-tests.htm#bmat. This is because British Council needs to pay its proctors, pay for the rooms and pay for the shipping of the test papers back to Cambridge. Those who test at NUS High also need to cover the shipping fee but we get to choose our carrier. We naturally chose the cheapest yet reliable one--DHL.
Then again, you may like the British Council because they are an experienced test centre.
What?
Three sections.
1) Verbal and quantitative reasoning (this is the name I have given this section).
It is likely that after this whole paragraph, you still won't understand what this section is about. So go do the practices =)
By the time you have done the UKCAT and ISAT, you would be pretty experienced with the thinking skills required on this section. I read this advice that I personally go by: read the questions carefully, EVEN if you are running short of time. Carelessness can cause you to lose marks even though your calculations were perfectly alright.
2) Scientific skills and application.
This is my worst section. I left about 5 questions unread (though not unanswered) and guessed about 3 others. No negative marking on the BMAT so I guessed.
This section tests on O Level Mathematics, Biology, Chemistry and Physics. The Science curriculum is at the Double Award standard so the knowledge required is NOT immense. The tricky part is that the questions might present the information in novel ways and for slow readers like me, it is difficult to the digest the question and link it to the relevant knowledge quickly.
I cannot remember why I couldn't immediately know the answer to some of the questions. Any BMAT-testers out there who know what are the difficulties of the BMAT questions?
The A level students would be mugging before and after the BMAT, so the knowledge is probably fresher in their minds. But NUS High Students who did their APs in June need not fret! We all have the knowledge; we just need to revise it (see Prep section).
3) Writing task
You are given a statement related to science or medicine. There will be three questions asked with regards to this statement. You must answer all three of the questions in your essay. Usually, the questions require you to i) Explain what is meant by the statement. ii) Discuss how you would support the statement and how you would oppose the statement. iii) Resolve the two viewpoints. Sometimes the question will tell you what conclusion you must reach. For example, the last question specifically asks you to give an example in favour of one side of the argument.
From 2010 onwards, four statements will be printed with their respective questions (previously, only three choices were given). You must choose one of these four statements.
This is not an essay. So you can write your arguments in outline style. But it still must be in full sentences. You can even draw diagrams, so some of the books I read say, though I have yet to see any essays with drawings.
I strongly recommend that you put in good arguments and tone down on the examples unless the questions specifically ask you to give exampleS. If not, one example for each side of the argument, and perhaps one more for your resolution, will do.
Score
The first two sections are scored on a scale of 1.0 to 9.0. Apparently, according to the book by Cambridge Assessment, 5.0 is the average score, 6.0 is relatively high and 7.0 is exceptional. The scores of all the students is approximately a bell-shape centred at 5.0.
Two markers will read your response to the last section. The last section is scored, from this year onwards, with two criteria. First, quality of content: scores are awards on a scale from 1 to 5. Second, quality of English: each marker gives you either A, C or E. If both give you an A, you get an A. If one gives you A and the other, C, you get a B.
THE END
Congratulations on reading to the end! ;) Don't let the tests scare you; they are the FIRST in a series of many many (~hundred?) tests you'll take in the medical profession.
I'd like to end with a food for thought: Orphan interns and blundering bureaucrats, Editor, Medical Journal of Australia. http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/193_06_200910/martin_200910.html
1. UKCAT (UK Clinical Admissions Test)
http://www.ukcat.ac.uk/
This test is for a loooong list of UK universities. Some of the universities require you to take the UKCAT for dentistry too.
How to prepare for it?
You need to get used to two things: the UKCAT test structure and computer testing. I did all the practices tests available on the UKCAT website. The practice tests are a computer programme, so it is good in the sense that it will give you a fantastic idea of computer testing. I did the first practice test twice through because I freaked out the first time I did it and read less than half of the questions.
I freaked out so much after my first practice test that I went to the British Council to practice on this book called Passing the UKCAT and BMAT (2007) by Taylor, Hutton and Hutton. The book really works through all the questions with me, which I don't get on the official practice tests except for the Abstract Reasoning section. The book will also give tips on the abstract reasoning section. The extra practice really boosted my confidence, esp for the verbal section. (Read more about the different sections below.)
Another friend says that you can actually find helpful extra practice on the abstract reasoning section online but I didn't get to try these on time.
Where to take it?
All UKCAT exams in Singapore are held at the Pearson Vue testing centre in Tanjong Pagar. The whole office is filled with computers where people do all sorts of tests. When you enter, they will check your passport (for Singapore testing, Pearson requires that you bring your passport as your identification), get you to sign and even check that your signature matches that on your passport. You then put your stuff into a locker. You can bring ABSOLUTELY NOTHING into the testing room except the stuff they give you, that is, a stone-age calculator, a laminated piece of paper (for your scribblings) and a whiteboard marker. They will check your pockets.
There will be other people testing in the room too, which means that you'll have typing/clicking sounds. So Pearson provides you with this super cool headphones that block out the sound. Use it! If you need more paper, just raise your hand and the eagle-eyes examiner will get it to you.
What is in the test?
From the website: The test assesses a wide range of mental abilities and behavioural attributes identified by university Medical and Dental Schools as important.
Now it comprises of five sections. You are STRICTLY TIMED for each section.
First, the verbal reasoning section. You're given a passage to read, then you read statements and figure out whether the statements are true or false, or that you "can't tell" if the statement is true or false. This section was very difficult for me because I read slowly (I like to thoroughly understand every sentence) and it wasn't easy to decide whether the statements were true or false. After some practice, I gather that "true" means that the passage EXPLICITLY STATES or IMPLIES that it is true, "false" means that the passage EXPLICITLY STATES or IMPLIES that it is false, and "can't tell" means that the passage doesn't explicitly state or imply the statement. Remember, the minute you can, using your pre-trained academic capabilities
SIGNPOSTS for the "Can't tell" option: unclear definition of words and phrases, lack of credibility of a particular quote in the passage (i.e. the statement is found in the passage but appears to be from a doubtful source), unlinked ideas (e.g. the cause-effect relationship is confounded).
Second, the quantitative reasoning section. As mentioned, you'll get a calculator. If you can immediately process the question and punch in the numbers, good for you! People like me who need to write out the information on paper are disadvantaged because time is tight, though not as tight as the verbal section. NUSH students should not find this section a big problem.
Third, the abstract reasoning section. From my practice book, this section tests your ability to "understand the underlying logic" and your "innate capacity to reason".
The UKCAT website explains this best: "In this subtest, you will be presented with two sets of shapes labelled 'Set A' and 'Set B'. All the shapes in Set A are similar in some way, as are the shapes in Set B. Set A and Set B are not related to each other. For each pair of Set A and Set B, you will be presented with five 'Test Shapes'. Your task is to decide whether each test shape belongs to Set A, Set B, or neither. You will be presented with a total of thirteen pairs of Set A and Set B. For each pair, you will be presented with five items."
This is the second killer section. You just don't know what to look out for in each set! For this section, KEEP PRACTISING; sorry.
Fourth, the decision analysis section. You are given a whole new coding system. Your tasks are to figure out what coded statements mean in plain english, to figure out how to say certain english sentences in code language, and to decide what new codes should be added to the system so that you can better express certain english sentences. This is my strongest section. I personally quite like it because this section tests your sense of logic.
Last section is a personality test. The questions that came out were exactly the same as that for the PQA (more later). No sweat for this. Just relax and be truthful.
Scores
The minute I stepped out of the testing hall, my score sheet was tossed into my hand. This is the ONLY EVIDENCE that YOU have of your score. If you lose it and need a reprint, you need to pay Pearson. After you register on UCAS, Pearson will miraculously coordinate with the universities and send over the scores. So this is NOT like the SATs, where you have to send to individual schools.
Each section is scored between 300 and 900. The executive summary in the UKCAT website will tell you more details on the mean score of all the sections, which ranges from 582 to 677. I did a rough calculation of my percentile using 68-95-99.7 rule and can tell you that if I took the UKCAT in 2009 and got the same overall score, I will be approximately in the top 2.5% of UKCAT examinees.
2. ISAT
(Congrats if you are still reading! You really want to do Medicine ;))
http://isat.acer.edu.au/
ISAT is for application to a couple of Australian universities: Monash, Western Australia, Tasmania and Queensland.
I agree with May Fong on this: "Try to take it so that your results are available when you are doing your applications, and that would require you to plan ahead." For example, if you are planning to complete your applications at the March IDP Medical and Health Sciences Fair, you must have taken your ISAT the year before. If you haven't, you must rush to take it before June because some universities have a June deadline. Plus it takes some time for your results to be processed. They say 3 weeks but mine took 1 month to be processed because I tested early in the testing season.
Testing this year takes place 1 April to 29 Oct 2010.
Preparation
I will quote Acer on this because I agree with them:
"The purpose of ISAT is to assess your abilities in a range of cross-curricular skills. ISAT measures skills acquired over a period of time, including the ability to reason, make logical deductions and form judgements. The test does not draw on any particular subject knowledge. There would therefore be little benefit to be gained by ‘cramming’ or coaching. Your best preparation may be to read widely and to think critically about what you read. However, some familiarity with the question types typically presented in ISAT is an advantage. For this reason, some sample questions are provided on this site."
Where?
You get to choose from a couple of testing sites in Singapore. I chose Central Plaza (Tiong Bahru). I recall that it was a sort of computer-skills training centre. They had this small testing room. Again, nothing is allowed in except for what they give you--a whiteboard, a whiteboard marker and a duster--but your stuff is just outside in a locker so I ran out to drink some water midway through. I certainly cannot remain seated for a whole 3 hrs.
What?
I quote May Fong from her earlier post: It’s pretty much like a logic test.. with those puzzle-like things.
I didn't think of it as a logic test. It comprised of ALL SORTS of questions! 3 hours of a whole variety of questions. Acer says that the questions fall into two categories: critical reasoning and quantitative reasoning (http://isat.acer.edu.au/content-of-isat/). Perhaps the closest analogy to this is a mash-up of the critical reading and mathematics section of the SAT Reasoning. I found it tougher than the SAT though.
I had multiple-choice comprehensions and calculation questions. No calculator for this test so calculations are simple. Rather, they like to know that you know HOW to manipulate quantitative information.
Score
I quote the acer website: "The scoring process is complex and requires substantial development and analysis by ACER's psychometricians. Candidates cannot calculate their own scores... ISAT scores for Critical Reasoning (CR), Quantitative Reasoning (QR) and Overall Reasoning (OR) are on scales with ranges of 100-200."
The raw scores did not make a lot of sense to me. So I was just concerned with the percentile, which tells me my standing relative to the rest of the test-takers (AP Statistics anybody?). Like May Fong said, we have no idea what percentile is required in order to secure an interview but we are guessing it is a minimum of 90%. Both of us got above 90%, as did another friend who took the ISAT.
3. Personal Qualities Assessment (PQA)
http://www.pqa.net.au/
The University of Adelaide does not use the ISAT. Instead, it developed its own test with the University of Newcastle--the PQA. Now, you need to pay AUD300 to take this test ON TOP of your Adelaide application fees. As a result, some people may be discouraged from applying to Adelaide. Read May Fong's post on Adelaide and decide whether you really want to go to Adelaide. Then discuss with your parents on whether they are willing to pay.
Preparation
No way to prepare. Shorter version of ISAT i.e. still testing your verbal reasoning and quantitative reasoning, with two more sections assessing "how honest you are about yourself" and your personality.
Where?
Everybody who chooses to take the PQA will be gathered together on one day at a hotel. This year, it's Carlton Hotel; it's probably going to be the same again next year. There are about 50 people in this large conference hall setting. Bring a jacket!
What?
Four sections.
1. Mental Agility Test: IQ test. Testing your verbal and quantitative skills. I did not have enough time and hence left many questions blank (about 3-5 questions) for this but still passed it.
2. and 3. MOJAC and NACE: From the website, this test "reflects their value system and what they believe is appropriate in each situation.
4. Personal qualities inventory: A zillion questions to assess whether you are honest about yourself.
MAT is timed separately from the other three sections. The other three sections contain questions and statements that are identical to the last section of the UKCAT. In mathematical terms, the UKCAT questions are a subset (though not a perfect subset) of the PQA Personal Qualities Inventory questions.
I recommend that you work quickly through the first timed section and do the rest slow but steadily. I rushed through sections 2-4 and was quite bored by the time the exam ended.
Score
You will never know your PQA score. Adelaide will just tell you whether you have "passed the PQA testing round". I think there is a way of requesting for your score but I cannot remember the conditions under which they will release the score, if they will even release the score at all.
4. BioMedical Admissions Test (BMAT)
http://www.admissionstests.cambridgeassessment.org.uk/adt/bmat
This is a test for admission into certain courses (most notably Medicine) at five of the most competitive UK universities, namely University of Cambridge, Imperial College London, Univeristy of Oxford, Royal Veterinary College and University College London. Everybody in the world takes this test at 0900 (GMT+8hrs). We in Singapore get to take it around 3-4 p.m..
Preparation
The BMAT is most DIFFERENT from the rest of the tests because it tests you on science and math knowledge i.e. something that you should revise for. YAY! Not. This section tests knowledge up until O Level knowledge. If you have O Level textbooks, go ahead and read them inside out. Our school library currently doesn't have any books that focus on O Level content only; we only have a practice book for O Level Chemistry and A level revision notes at best.
So... You can buy some books from Kinokunya. Currently, there are two books on stock:
1. How to Master the BMAT: Unbeatable Preparation for Success in the BioMedical Admissions Test -US-Tyreman, Chris / Publisher:Kogan Page Ltd Published 2009/10
SGD46.51
2. BMAT and UKCAT Uncovered: A Guide to Medical School Entrance Exams (PAP) -US-Osinowo, T. O. / Weerakkody, R. A. / Woodward, H. W. / Allen, Chris / Publisher:B M J Books Published 2008/09
SGD65.24
I did not really read the two of them in detail but I think the strength of these books is that they have really good reviews of the "scientific skills and applications" section. We are trying to get our college counsellors to put them in the school library for next year's batch of BMAT students =)
As for me, with only two weeks to prepare for the BMAT, I dilligently and very fearfully did all of the practice tests available online. I NEVER finished the tests on time so go figure how nervous I was when I sat for my BMAT. I also went down to the British Council to read up on two books:
1. Preparing for the BMAT: The official guide to the BMAT. Heinermann, Cambridge Assessment. This will be advertised on the BMAT sign up site. Personally don't find this book particularly useful except for giving extra practices.
2. Passing the UKCAT and BMAT (Same book I used for UKCAT). This book is a little outdated, but otherwise inspires confidence in the reader, especially when talking about the writing section
My recommendation: get your hands on those kinokunya books, go down to the British Council only if 1) you have read the kino books cover to cover and still have 2 weeks to go before your BMAT 2) cannot afford the books (it is truly expensive, I understand). Buy them from seniors (I am 100% sure all of them will want to sell), borrow them from the school library (hope and pray that we can get these on the shelf asap), buy them yourself.
Do NOT be lazy when practising for the essay section. When you practice, write at least 3 essays in full within the 30 min time limit. The reason for this is that you need to get used to fitting your whole argument into the box that they give you (like the SAT). You also need to get used to planning your time properly so that you can answer all of the questions (see What? section) in time. You can just draw brainstorming diagrams for as many other essay topics as you can lay your hands on. Practise thinking about both sides of the argument.
Where?
Three of us (including myself) were privileged to be able to take the BMAT at our school. I do not know of any other schools in Singapore that is registered as a test centre. Everybody else took the BMAT with the British Council, which will hold the test at various examination rooms across Singapore-- for example, my friend had her test at Republic Poly.
Personally prefer our school because:
i) We're comfortable in the familiar school environment
ii) It costs about SGD300 less than a test with the British Council. Compare this http://www.admissionstests.cambridgeassessment.org.uk/adt/bmat/datesandcost and this http://www.britishcouncil.org/singapore-exams-cambridge-admissions-tests.htm#bmat. This is because British Council needs to pay its proctors, pay for the rooms and pay for the shipping of the test papers back to Cambridge. Those who test at NUS High also need to cover the shipping fee but we get to choose our carrier. We naturally chose the cheapest yet reliable one--DHL.
Then again, you may like the British Council because they are an experienced test centre.
What?
Three sections.
1) Verbal and quantitative reasoning (this is the name I have given this section).
35 questions in 1 hr.
Comprises mostly of multiple-choice questions but also comprises some questions where you have to fill in a number, or write true or false. The MCQs come from one of three kinds: i) You are given a passage and have to pick out the strength, weakness, flaw, assumption, implication or conclusion. Sometimes you are given three statements and are asked to pick out which will strengthen the argument. Usually, every paper will have only one long passage (~8 paragraphs) while the rest are one-paragraph passages. ii) You are given a word problem (think primary school word problems with more complex calculations) to solve. You need to be able to pick out the relevant numbers from the irrelevant. iii) You are given a complex series of graphs, data and paragraphs. You will have to combine the information correctly. Questions may require calculation.It is likely that after this whole paragraph, you still won't understand what this section is about. So go do the practices =)
By the time you have done the UKCAT and ISAT, you would be pretty experienced with the thinking skills required on this section. I read this advice that I personally go by: read the questions carefully, EVEN if you are running short of time. Carelessness can cause you to lose marks even though your calculations were perfectly alright.
2) Scientific skills and application.
This is my worst section. I left about 5 questions unread (though not unanswered) and guessed about 3 others. No negative marking on the BMAT so I guessed.
This section tests on O Level Mathematics, Biology, Chemistry and Physics. The Science curriculum is at the Double Award standard so the knowledge required is NOT immense. The tricky part is that the questions might present the information in novel ways and for slow readers like me, it is difficult to the digest the question and link it to the relevant knowledge quickly.
I cannot remember why I couldn't immediately know the answer to some of the questions. Any BMAT-testers out there who know what are the difficulties of the BMAT questions?
The A level students would be mugging before and after the BMAT, so the knowledge is probably fresher in their minds. But NUS High Students who did their APs in June need not fret! We all have the knowledge; we just need to revise it (see Prep section).
3) Writing task
You are given a statement related to science or medicine. There will be three questions asked with regards to this statement. You must answer all three of the questions in your essay. Usually, the questions require you to i) Explain what is meant by the statement. ii) Discuss how you would support the statement and how you would oppose the statement. iii) Resolve the two viewpoints. Sometimes the question will tell you what conclusion you must reach. For example, the last question specifically asks you to give an example in favour of one side of the argument.
From 2010 onwards, four statements will be printed with their respective questions (previously, only three choices were given). You must choose one of these four statements.
This is not an essay. So you can write your arguments in outline style. But it still must be in full sentences. You can even draw diagrams, so some of the books I read say, though I have yet to see any essays with drawings.
I strongly recommend that you put in good arguments and tone down on the examples unless the questions specifically ask you to give exampleS. If not, one example for each side of the argument, and perhaps one more for your resolution, will do.
Score
The first two sections are scored on a scale of 1.0 to 9.0. Apparently, according to the book by Cambridge Assessment, 5.0 is the average score, 6.0 is relatively high and 7.0 is exceptional. The scores of all the students is approximately a bell-shape centred at 5.0.
Two markers will read your response to the last section. The last section is scored, from this year onwards, with two criteria. First, quality of content: scores are awards on a scale from 1 to 5. Second, quality of English: each marker gives you either A, C or E. If both give you an A, you get an A. If one gives you A and the other, C, you get a B.
THE END
Congratulations on reading to the end! ;) Don't let the tests scare you; they are the FIRST in a series of many many (~hundred?) tests you'll take in the medical profession.
I'd like to end with a food for thought: Orphan interns and blundering bureaucrats, Editor, Medical Journal of Australia. http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/193_06_200910/martin_200910.html
Friday, July 2, 2010
Application to Australian medical school
This article was written by Chan May Fong '09 who is currently a student at the School of Medicine at the University of Adelaide, Australia. Thank you, May Fong!
Hi there,
I’m May Fong. I’m a graduate from the 2009 batch, and I’m currently studying medicine in the University of Adelaide in Australia. I was asked to share my experience on applying to Australian medical schools and so here I am. I’ll try my best to address the issues which I think people would want to know about, and hopefully what I cover will be sufficient.
Application
The usual agency for applying to Australian Universities would be IDP. However, via recommendation of a family friend, I went through this agency called AusEd. It works the same as IDP, it’s free (they are sponsored by the universities), and I think they ultimately still go through IDP? To be honest, I have no idea what’s the difference, other than possibly location of the office. I would say though, that AusEd was a great help in my application process. They made things pretty easy on my side and were very helpful.
These agencies will actually cover most of this portion of application better than me? They should guide you through the rest of it step by step... But I’ll just try to put the gist of it here.
Ok. So anyway, the schools available for undergraduate medicine and are recognized in Singapore are:
*Please note. These are the schools that were available for me to apply. Times may have changed, it does seem like schools have been eliminating the undergraduate entry program.
University of Tasmania (5 yr program)
University of Western Australia (6 yr)
University of Queensland (6yr)
Monash University (5yr)
University of Adelaide (6yr)
University of New South Wales (6yr)
University of Newcastle (5 yrs?)
I’ll just talk about those I’m more familiar about, because I didn’t apply to that many of them.
First up, for most of the schools, you would have to do a test called the ISAT. It’s pretty much like a logic test.. with those puzzle-like things. That’s pretty much what I remembered of it... you can check it out here: http://isat.acer.edu.au/
This test is for Monash, University of Western Australia, Tasmania and Queensland.
I would like to mention that the timing of when you take the ISAT can be quite crucial. Try to take it so that your results are available when you are doing your applications, and that would require you to plan ahead. If you don’t plan to apply in that year, don’t waste your money + time. I have heard that Australian universities are not too fond of holding places over 2 years for guys to finish to your NS, though different universities have different policies, so please do go find out from IDP/AusEd/whatever agency you are going through.
There is no set cut-off for the ISAT, so just do your best!
Different universities will have different tests/no tests. For my university, I had to do the PQA (personal qualities assessment). It includes logic questions and personality assessments. It is slightly different from the ISAT... so just give it your best shot as well if you are taking it.
I’m pretty sure New South Wales doesn’t require any testing so I think it’s pretty much just based on your results and your interview.
Just to mention, I personally didn’t prepare for any of these tests. I don’t think it’s possible to prepare for them, or if there are even opportunities/books available for practice. So once again, just show up, and give it your best shot.
The other component for application would be your school results. The universities do not appear to have a clear cut off for CAPs, though the agencies MAY be able to advice you on your chances of getting an interview based on your score. They usually will discourage you from applying if they feel that your score can’t make the cut, because it saves trouble for both you and them. However, they may not be that clear about our school diploma and how it stands due to our school still being really new to them.
The best thing about Australian universities is that that’s pretty much it! You would have to fill in a form with your personal details, educational history, etc... but no essays or Teacher recommendations are needed! :) There may be a questionnaire to fill in for New South Wales though. And if you submit your application forms at fairs (like those huge study fairs at Sg expo/Suntec), the application fees are usually waived. You would still have to pay for the tests though. The agencies should be able to guide you through all the forms and payment etc.
The deadline for these would generally be by the end of June, and may differ for each of the universities.
After you do all the submissions, you basically sit back, cross your fingers, and wait for an interview.
The rest is pretty much straight forward. You go for the interviews, and wait for a reply. :)
The course
The course has been amazing thus far, and it has been everything I expected and possibly more. And after speaking to seniors in NUS and other med schools, I have concluded that it is crucial to find a course that fits you best so you will be contented and happy. This is important because medicine is a long and arduous journey, and if you are miserable in the course, it would be extremely difficult to pull through to the end.
Read course descriptions on University websites when deciding on a school, and try to figure out if it suits your style of learning. From what I have heard about NUS, they like to focus on the theory first and make sure their students have the basics of anatomy and physiology down before starting on the other aspects like pathology, clinical skills, etc. In fact, their clinical skills are taught over a concentrated period over a few months in one of the final years.
My school, on the other hand, believes in an integrated approach, and we are doing anatomy, physiology, pathology, histology, clinical skills, and even ethics, all concurrently. That would mean the detail we go into would definitely be much less at least for the first year or so, but we are learning all aspects at once.
My university is unique in the sense that we put much focus on the CBL (case-based learning) approach. We have CBL sessions 3 times a week, 2 hours each time. In these sessions, we are split into groups of about 10 students with 1 tutor and we are given a case, which we need to discuss and learn from. The point of CBL is not so much of making a diagnosis for the case, but it is more of the idea of discussing the relevant medicine (anatomy, physiology, treatment, management, etc) that is related to the case and thus, learning from there.
There are pros and cons of each and every course, and therefore I once again stress that it is important to find what is best for you. I personally am contented where I am, and I enjoy the way the curriculum is structured. However, I have friends who feel that the curriculum is messy and disorganized, and that the school is basically trying too hard to throw everything at once at us.
Therefore, my suggestion is to talk to seniors, read up on courses, talk to the agencies, and find the school that suits you best.
Life in Adelaide
I’ll just touch on this briefly because Adelaide is unique in the sense that has pretty much been described as a “hole”. If you are looking for a place with night life, entertainment, etc, I’m sorry but Adelaide is NOT the place for you. It is pretty much well-established as one of the most boring places in Australia. If you are looking for more lively places, the universities in Sydney and Melbourne would definitely be a much better choice.
I personally am enjoying Adelaide though. I do not go to pubs/clubs so the lack of a night life doesn’t really bother me. However, there are times where I feel like tearing my hair out during the holidays when there is absolutely nothing interesting to do.... let’s just say that even the tourist attractions (or lack of) in Adelaide aren’t remotely attractive. Most of the time, they aren’t very accessible either unless you have a car.
There is a pretty good music scene in Adelaide though, if that interests anyone. Adelaide is quite popular for their music and art festivals. I also feel that a nice variety of bands come by Adelaide, so.. that may interest you especially if you are into little Indie bands that probably won’t ever play in Singapore. However, “big name” artistes do have the tendency to snub Adelaide during Australian tours because of Adelaide’s reputation of being the small/quiet/dead town.
Overall, Adelaide is quite a cosy place. It’s small, with a relatively small population as well. There are only so many places you can go, and people usually congregate in the city area. You would most likely meet someone you know every time you leave the house. For instance, I was just hanging out with my friends in the city one day after my mid-year exams and we already saw 4 medical students from our year at random locations over 2 hours.
So.. that’s pretty much it. I hope that gave you a good idea of the process of application, and also a brief slice of my life as a med student in Australia. :) :)
Hi there,
I’m May Fong. I’m a graduate from the 2009 batch, and I’m currently studying medicine in the University of Adelaide in Australia. I was asked to share my experience on applying to Australian medical schools and so here I am. I’ll try my best to address the issues which I think people would want to know about, and hopefully what I cover will be sufficient.
Application
The usual agency for applying to Australian Universities would be IDP. However, via recommendation of a family friend, I went through this agency called AusEd. It works the same as IDP, it’s free (they are sponsored by the universities), and I think they ultimately still go through IDP? To be honest, I have no idea what’s the difference, other than possibly location of the office. I would say though, that AusEd was a great help in my application process. They made things pretty easy on my side and were very helpful.
These agencies will actually cover most of this portion of application better than me? They should guide you through the rest of it step by step... But I’ll just try to put the gist of it here.
Ok. So anyway, the schools available for undergraduate medicine and are recognized in Singapore are:
*Please note. These are the schools that were available for me to apply. Times may have changed, it does seem like schools have been eliminating the undergraduate entry program.
University of Tasmania (5 yr program)
University of Western Australia (6 yr)
University of Queensland (6yr)
Monash University (5yr)
University of Adelaide (6yr)
University of New South Wales (6yr)
University of Newcastle (5 yrs?)
I’ll just talk about those I’m more familiar about, because I didn’t apply to that many of them.
First up, for most of the schools, you would have to do a test called the ISAT. It’s pretty much like a logic test.. with those puzzle-like things. That’s pretty much what I remembered of it... you can check it out here: http://isat.acer.edu.au/
This test is for Monash, University of Western Australia, Tasmania and Queensland.
I would like to mention that the timing of when you take the ISAT can be quite crucial. Try to take it so that your results are available when you are doing your applications, and that would require you to plan ahead. If you don’t plan to apply in that year, don’t waste your money + time. I have heard that Australian universities are not too fond of holding places over 2 years for guys to finish to your NS, though different universities have different policies, so please do go find out from IDP/AusEd/whatever agency you are going through.
There is no set cut-off for the ISAT, so just do your best!
Different universities will have different tests/no tests. For my university, I had to do the PQA (personal qualities assessment). It includes logic questions and personality assessments. It is slightly different from the ISAT... so just give it your best shot as well if you are taking it.
I’m pretty sure New South Wales doesn’t require any testing so I think it’s pretty much just based on your results and your interview.
Just to mention, I personally didn’t prepare for any of these tests. I don’t think it’s possible to prepare for them, or if there are even opportunities/books available for practice. So once again, just show up, and give it your best shot.
The other component for application would be your school results. The universities do not appear to have a clear cut off for CAPs, though the agencies MAY be able to advice you on your chances of getting an interview based on your score. They usually will discourage you from applying if they feel that your score can’t make the cut, because it saves trouble for both you and them. However, they may not be that clear about our school diploma and how it stands due to our school still being really new to them.
The best thing about Australian universities is that that’s pretty much it! You would have to fill in a form with your personal details, educational history, etc... but no essays or Teacher recommendations are needed! :) There may be a questionnaire to fill in for New South Wales though. And if you submit your application forms at fairs (like those huge study fairs at Sg expo/Suntec), the application fees are usually waived. You would still have to pay for the tests though. The agencies should be able to guide you through all the forms and payment etc.
The deadline for these would generally be by the end of June, and may differ for each of the universities.
After you do all the submissions, you basically sit back, cross your fingers, and wait for an interview.
The rest is pretty much straight forward. You go for the interviews, and wait for a reply. :)
The course
The course has been amazing thus far, and it has been everything I expected and possibly more. And after speaking to seniors in NUS and other med schools, I have concluded that it is crucial to find a course that fits you best so you will be contented and happy. This is important because medicine is a long and arduous journey, and if you are miserable in the course, it would be extremely difficult to pull through to the end.
Read course descriptions on University websites when deciding on a school, and try to figure out if it suits your style of learning. From what I have heard about NUS, they like to focus on the theory first and make sure their students have the basics of anatomy and physiology down before starting on the other aspects like pathology, clinical skills, etc. In fact, their clinical skills are taught over a concentrated period over a few months in one of the final years.
My school, on the other hand, believes in an integrated approach, and we are doing anatomy, physiology, pathology, histology, clinical skills, and even ethics, all concurrently. That would mean the detail we go into would definitely be much less at least for the first year or so, but we are learning all aspects at once.
My university is unique in the sense that we put much focus on the CBL (case-based learning) approach. We have CBL sessions 3 times a week, 2 hours each time. In these sessions, we are split into groups of about 10 students with 1 tutor and we are given a case, which we need to discuss and learn from. The point of CBL is not so much of making a diagnosis for the case, but it is more of the idea of discussing the relevant medicine (anatomy, physiology, treatment, management, etc) that is related to the case and thus, learning from there.
There are pros and cons of each and every course, and therefore I once again stress that it is important to find what is best for you. I personally am contented where I am, and I enjoy the way the curriculum is structured. However, I have friends who feel that the curriculum is messy and disorganized, and that the school is basically trying too hard to throw everything at once at us.
Therefore, my suggestion is to talk to seniors, read up on courses, talk to the agencies, and find the school that suits you best.
Life in Adelaide
I’ll just touch on this briefly because Adelaide is unique in the sense that has pretty much been described as a “hole”. If you are looking for a place with night life, entertainment, etc, I’m sorry but Adelaide is NOT the place for you. It is pretty much well-established as one of the most boring places in Australia. If you are looking for more lively places, the universities in Sydney and Melbourne would definitely be a much better choice.
I personally am enjoying Adelaide though. I do not go to pubs/clubs so the lack of a night life doesn’t really bother me. However, there are times where I feel like tearing my hair out during the holidays when there is absolutely nothing interesting to do.... let’s just say that even the tourist attractions (or lack of) in Adelaide aren’t remotely attractive. Most of the time, they aren’t very accessible either unless you have a car.
There is a pretty good music scene in Adelaide though, if that interests anyone. Adelaide is quite popular for their music and art festivals. I also feel that a nice variety of bands come by Adelaide, so.. that may interest you especially if you are into little Indie bands that probably won’t ever play in Singapore. However, “big name” artistes do have the tendency to snub Adelaide during Australian tours because of Adelaide’s reputation of being the small/quiet/dead town.
Overall, Adelaide is quite a cosy place. It’s small, with a relatively small population as well. There are only so many places you can go, and people usually congregate in the city area. You would most likely meet someone you know every time you leave the house. For instance, I was just hanging out with my friends in the city one day after my mid-year exams and we already saw 4 medical students from our year at random locations over 2 hours.
So.. that’s pretty much it. I hope that gave you a good idea of the process of application, and also a brief slice of my life as a med student in Australia. :) :)
Wednesday, July 1, 2009
RE: Choosing a school, Part IV
We have a comment regarding this post that I thought is relevant to bring to everyone's attention:
So, what we've heard about Duke-NUS is actually wrong (maybe not we, but at least this is what I've been hearing). Duke-NUS trains students to practise medicine either as doctors or researchers.
Something I took from their website:
We are seeking outstanding students who have completed their undergraduate (or Master's or Ph.D.'s) training in the life sciences, engineering, pharmacology, chemistry, physics, computer science, or similar fields. Students with any background other than MBBS degrees are welcome to apply.
So for those of you who think you can't make it to undergrad med, you can always take a science degree and then go on to graduate med in Duke-NUS and still fulfill your dreams of becoming a doctor.
Duke-NUS Medical School said...
Hi,
I am a representative from Duke-NUS Medical School and I would like to correct the perception of Duke-NUS that you have mentioned in your blog.
We train our students to be successful medical leaders, be it whether they pursue a physician or researcher route.
Our curriculum follows Duke University's and it is unique in Asia. Our students do their clinical rotation in year 2, 1 year earlier than a typical medical school. And in the 3rd year, our students devote 1 full year to a research topic of their choice.
We emphasize teamwork, creative and critical thinking skills as we believe these are important skills to possess as a medical leader.
If you would like more information on our school, please visit: www.duke-nus.edu.sg
or write into: info@duke-nus.edu.sg
So, what we've heard about Duke-NUS is actually wrong (maybe not we, but at least this is what I've been hearing). Duke-NUS trains students to practise medicine either as doctors or researchers.
Something I took from their website:
We are seeking outstanding students who have completed their undergraduate (or Master's or Ph.D.'s) training in the life sciences, engineering, pharmacology, chemistry, physics, computer science, or similar fields. Students with any background other than MBBS degrees are welcome to apply.
So for those of you who think you can't make it to undergrad med, you can always take a science degree and then go on to graduate med in Duke-NUS and still fulfill your dreams of becoming a doctor.
Friday, April 3, 2009
Choosing a School - Part IV
Now I will talk about local schools. Aside from popular courses like medicine, dentistry or law, local universities are generally easier to get in than overseas universities. Aside from being a lot cheaper, you will also be at home, which is a very good perk for some who eventually decide not to go overseas for further studies.
I will cover only NUS, NTU and SMU as I dont think you will be interested in UniSim and other private universities. I am not an expert on NTU and SMU (I didnt apply) so I wont talk very much about them either. Please do correct me if I have any errors below.
In terms of culture:
NUS, well most of you have been there for research projects or field trips so I think you have had plenty of opportunities to soak in their culture and see if you like it or not. Personally I felt that it seemed more academically inclined than NTU or SMU, but I leave you to make your conclusions.
SMU projects the very 'cool' and 'fun' image, but some seniors from SMU have said that it's becoming more and more 'muggerish' due to the mix of students that they attract. Not sure what to make out of that because I didnt say it and I was never a student there, but again you make your judgments based on the feel you get when you go in etc.
In terms of academics:
If you are interested in doing medicine, NUS is the only local university thus far which has a medicine school. There has been talks lately about opening another one, but I dont think it will materialize within your time and so you got to fight for the 200-300 places in NUS medical school for undergraduate, or go to the Duke-NUS medical school for graduate studies. The NUS medical school is probably what you are looking at if you intend to practice after studying, from what I heard the Duke-NUS medical school trains you to be a researcher instead of a practicing doctor.
If you are interested in law, NUS and SMU have law programmes, however a friend doing law now tells me that NUS's programme is more established. Take it for what you will.
If you want to do sciences, SMU does not offer science, so your only choices are NUS and NTU. NUS science fac should be easy for most of you, ditto for NTU. I wont comment about which one is better because both schools have their strong and weak points, but you probably already know whether you want to go to NUS or NTU. If you dont know just apply to both.
If you want to do business, it seems like that is SMU's forte (accountancy and business)and it seems to be 1 of the more popular courses for NUS as well.
If you want to do arts and social sciences, I have no opinion other than doing psychology at any of our local universities is not as good as going to the US.
>> Choosing a School - Part IV
I will cover only NUS, NTU and SMU as I dont think you will be interested in UniSim and other private universities. I am not an expert on NTU and SMU (I didnt apply) so I wont talk very much about them either. Please do correct me if I have any errors below.
In terms of culture:
NUS, well most of you have been there for research projects or field trips so I think you have had plenty of opportunities to soak in their culture and see if you like it or not. Personally I felt that it seemed more academically inclined than NTU or SMU, but I leave you to make your conclusions.
SMU projects the very 'cool' and 'fun' image, but some seniors from SMU have said that it's becoming more and more 'muggerish' due to the mix of students that they attract. Not sure what to make out of that because I didnt say it and I was never a student there, but again you make your judgments based on the feel you get when you go in etc.
In terms of academics:
If you are interested in doing medicine, NUS is the only local university thus far which has a medicine school. There has been talks lately about opening another one, but I dont think it will materialize within your time and so you got to fight for the 200-300 places in NUS medical school for undergraduate, or go to the Duke-NUS medical school for graduate studies. The NUS medical school is probably what you are looking at if you intend to practice after studying, from what I heard the Duke-NUS medical school trains you to be a researcher instead of a practicing doctor.
If you are interested in law, NUS and SMU have law programmes, however a friend doing law now tells me that NUS's programme is more established. Take it for what you will.
If you want to do sciences, SMU does not offer science, so your only choices are NUS and NTU. NUS science fac should be easy for most of you, ditto for NTU. I wont comment about which one is better because both schools have their strong and weak points, but you probably already know whether you want to go to NUS or NTU. If you dont know just apply to both.
If you want to do business, it seems like that is SMU's forte (accountancy and business)and it seems to be 1 of the more popular courses for NUS as well.
If you want to do arts and social sciences, I have no opinion other than doing psychology at any of our local universities is not as good as going to the US.
>> Choosing a School - Part IV
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